That's why Manly P. Hall's "Path of the Lonely Ones" makes so much sense. There isn't a single group for a bunch of insecure materialist atheists to invade. As far as Christians and honoring their God, they're more talk than action. If they honored their God, they wouldn't be afraid of going to church maskless and catching a bug that kills less people than the seasonal flu.
My take on this is that there are very few 'true believers' remaining among Christians in the Western world. For most it's a social club + rulebook (very selectively applied) for helping out with various areas in life. The reality is that it's Materialist Secularism (and its many flavors) that's the true religion for most Westerners today, including most nominal Christians.
I grew up Catholic, and by the time I was old enough to notice these things, I saw that no one in the church took the teachings seriously. They were wondering why everyone drifted away, and by the time I was 6 or 7 I saw it clearly: why would we believe in this if the adults don't? If our parents used it as a social club, why should we bother with it?
Also, the fact that most "Christians" I know who hear of it are okay with my paganism but not my interests in breaking away from the technosphere tells me what it really is that they worship.
My husband's relatives are Seventh Day Adventists, and they're probably the most damaged breed of Christian aside from Jehovah's Witnesses. I have only met one Christian who actually seemed holy -- and the pool of Christians I have to choose from includes the thousands of Catholics and various flavors of Protestant I have encountered in nearly 50 years on the planet. Catholics are generally more laid back than Protestants, but as I have often mentioned, Christianity has a desperation problem. It is palpable: they are plum out of holy people. They're desperate to recruit new blood but never desperate enough to actually fight for their religion by going to church against government mandates.
The Millerite religions such as SDAs, Mormons, and JWs are host to some of the sleaziest, most materialistic creatures humanity has to offer despite stiff competition. I know some Ecosophians admire Joseph Smith, but in my opinion, he was a delusional, perverted creep (plus he was dumb, de dumb dumb dumb to quote South Park) whose racism was far more insidious than his contemporaries. If he had anything to say of value, it's only because a broken clock is right twice a day. The SDAs produce dysfunctional adults who are routinely severely sexually deviant and the same is true of Mormons and JWs. JWs are horrific: every single one of them I have known was horrifically abused as a child.
The Catholics I know are more salary class. What is refreshing is that a small faction of them is starting to break away, keeping their Catholicism and giving the salary class pretentiousness the old heave ho.
I suspect that a lot of Christians are atheists, and that many of those who are not are worshipping demons. The problem as I see it is that far too many of them have embraced all the same ideas of not practising even basic psychic hygiene, and the outcome of this is exactly what you'd expect: things go very septic very fast.
I had a live one on my Facebook, Seventh Day Adventist of course, who thinks that any and all ghost sightings are the Devil himself. In the same paragraph he talked about how some of his elder female relative saw ghosts. So one part of him thinks of ghosts as the Devil and another part thinks they are figments of his relative's imagination.
I'm beginning to see a strong trend in traditional Catholicism. Youtube channels like Church Militant and Doctor Taylor Marshall are very popular. They've gotten popular enough that Bishop Barron, who is a nice guy but extremely bland, is disparaging them Rad Trads.
I'd go to a Latin Mass in a heartbeat if there were one near me. It could be that there will be a splintering in the Catholic Church with the woke Vatican against the traditional laity. What strange times.
I think the Rad Trads will win as long as they don't force their congregation to stay home, vaccinate, wear masks like the Woke Brigade is forcing on its side.
This might be off-tangent, but do you think the rise in power and evil of the Mexican cartels is related to the drop in power of the Catholic Church? I've heard such heinous stories about the cartels and it seems, to me at least, that it is the power of the old Aztec gods re-asserting their strength.
In fact, last Tuesday I was thinking about putting Our Lady of Guadalupe on my altar (I have a rosary there so I thought it was redundant) when a Mexican woman and her son came into our store. The boy was wearing a necklace, and I impulsively asked him who was on the necklace. He replied that it was Our Lady of Guadalupe.
That seems pretty spot on. The cartels fill the authoritative void left by Catholic failures. Just as the Druid gods, Greek gods, and the Norse Heathen pantheon are experiencing a Renaissance in the English speaking world, the Aztec gods are being revitalized in Mesoamerica, hence those mentally ill NPC drones in California picking up on the zeitgeist and attempting to force-legislate their worship in CA schools.
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Date: 2021-04-01 10:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-04-02 01:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-04-02 02:06 am (UTC)Also, the fact that most "Christians" I know who hear of it are okay with my paganism but not my interests in breaking away from the technosphere tells me what it really is that they worship.
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Date: 2021-04-02 03:03 am (UTC)The Millerite religions such as SDAs, Mormons, and JWs are host to some of the sleaziest, most materialistic creatures humanity has to offer despite stiff competition. I know some Ecosophians admire Joseph Smith, but in my opinion, he was a delusional, perverted creep (plus he was dumb, de dumb dumb dumb to quote South Park) whose racism was far more insidious than his contemporaries. If he had anything to say of value, it's only because a broken clock is right twice a day. The SDAs produce dysfunctional adults who are routinely severely sexually deviant and the same is true of Mormons and JWs. JWs are horrific: every single one of them I have known was horrifically abused as a child.
The Catholics I know are more salary class. What is refreshing is that a small faction of them is starting to break away, keeping their Catholicism and giving the salary class pretentiousness the old heave ho.
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Date: 2021-04-02 05:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-04-02 05:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-04-02 06:43 pm (UTC)I'd go to a Latin Mass in a heartbeat if there were one near me. It could be that there will be a splintering in the Catholic Church with the woke Vatican against the traditional laity. What strange times.
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Date: 2021-04-02 07:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-04-02 06:58 pm (UTC)In fact, last Tuesday I was thinking about putting Our Lady of Guadalupe on my altar (I have a rosary there so I thought it was redundant) when a Mexican woman and her son came into our store. The boy was wearing a necklace, and I impulsively asked him who was on the necklace. He replied that it was Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Hmmmmmm.
Jon
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Date: 2021-04-02 08:59 pm (UTC)