The Astral Bog

[kimberlysteele]

I was hagged yesterday morning. I was walking down a flight of stairs in a dream. A shadowy thing was headed in the opposite direction. As we crossed paths, it forced me through itself and latched on to my back. It tried to force me to invite it into my body. Of course I said no. I called on Poseidon via my memorized Orphic hymn -- it clung on despite my invocation, though not as strongly. It was still there when I woke up, slithering around my neck and head and chattering away in my ears.

I took a hoodoo bath immediately upon rising, deeper than usual, which was a rude wake up call. (I've gotten soft due to my lifestyle of modern suburban luxury.) The bath seemed to dislodge the Thing that wanted to go for a ride. During that morning's Sphere of Protection, I saw it ushered back to the Abyss by two tall figures and a third in the background.

Despite doing the Sphere of Protection every day for nearly three years, discursive meditation for over three years, daily prayer, and divination, I still have scary bouts on the astral. Approximately three weeks ago, another entity slimed me in much the same manner as today.

I had my first vivid astral travel experience/lucid dream around the age of four. The experience was remarkably similar to this morning's hagging. Just as some people naturally draw mosquitoes more than others, I draw incorporeal entities of all sorts. This was the case when I was raised Christian, when I became Wiccan as a teen, when I discarded Wicca for a long stint of atheism, and it is still the case now as I study Druidry. Nothing has truly changed about my attractiveness to entities fair and foul except my ability to shield myself via Druid rituals and mind-strengthening, and for that shielding I am eternally grateful.

The abilities I have with unseen beings can often be of great comfort and a source of happiness: because of my natural ability to communicate with the unseen, I have been able to assist dead loved ones and friends with crossing over. I walk into the forest preserve and I get the same rush a natural extrovert gets from walking into a crowded party -- I talk to trees, houses, bodies of water, patches of air, and I'm beginning to be able to talk to certain animals. Sensitivity, I have learned, is a balance. I have always been extremely sensitive and only Druidry got through to me enough so I could learn to harness it.

I'm not alone in my sensitivity, of course, but I am one of the lucky few sensitives who was in the right time at the right place. Druidry was my saving grace; Christianity simply didn't work for me and I have no passion for Eastern religions such as Shintoism or the practice of yoga. Sensitives like me tend to get sucked into believing we are "star children" or worse, being lured into atheist demonolatry with its edgelord posturing and improvised black candle spells.

Both the Rhonda Byrne-esque positivity movement and atheist "witches" have much to answer for in the current state of the astral plane. We are in an astral cesspool. Banishing ritual or not, there is precious little between us and a boiling bog of eternal stench. The Professional Managerial set and atheist warlocks/witches have chosen to swim through without even the benefit of a raft. Antifa/BLM and the Magic Resistance gleefully slide down the chute to the sewers with their foul toxic feminism, their inability to discriminate a blunt hammer applied to public discourse (their penchant for gaslighting and foul language), protests (riots), and magic (demonolatry). On the other side, toxic masculinity bleats about the importance of reseeding and restoring Christendom, never understanding that wasting away in front of a computer screen is perhaps the best possible route to loneliness and sperm dilution. In their minds, the blame for all of the world's evils lies squarely upon slutty women, cuckolds, and the great globalist cabal. Add to this stewpot the dire reality that almost all work for pay is horrendous drudgery. Teamwork? That's Bulls**tese for a pyramid scheme designed to fool suckers into providing enthusiastic labor for a greedy fat cat who vacations in Aruba and is on his third trophy wife. Attitude? That's the term the corporate zombies who control your life use to gaslight you into believing you didn't work hard enough when you are downsized. Commitment? That's what you are supposed to give endlessly to your boss without the faintest hope that you'll receive the basics of yesteryear in return: health insurance, vacations, the ability to afford a small, modest home. If you do land a job where you are taken care of, expect to trade no less than your immortal soul for your prosperity: the more you make, the more people are gunning for your position and the more you have to spend to fit in with others of your high class.

Now combine all of the aforementioned sludge with profound religious ignorance. I truly hope Christianity of the old fashioned stripe such as Old Skool Catholicism and Greek Orthodoxy makes a big comeback, because we need all of the exorcists and Christian mystics we can get right now. I hope the yoga people who have been thrown out of their suburban studios because of silly COVID rules head to the forests and start talking with the trees. I hope the vegan atheist Instagram witches get sick of personal and political blowback and start becoming serious Manly P. Hall quoting occultists. I argue that we need people interested in non-Harry Potter, antiseptic magic and prayer more than we need permaculturists and green wizards, and we need permaculturists and green wizards quite badly.

I'm doing what I can. Though because of my business, I must keep abreast of the politics that affect me, I have largely removed myself from politics and politicking. I recently did a big double hoodoo vacuum of my Studio (not a floor wash because it's got lots of carpeting) and I'll do a series of blessings on it in the following weeks. I'm praying and playing Orphic hymns every day. I'm wearing a red bag amulet. Making charms for around the house. Cups of vinegar and bowls of salt. Please pray for me that my measures will be adequate.

Comments

[methylethyl]

Ah, the hagging. Raised Calvinist, and to this day, I wonder if one of the reasons I couldn't really buy into protestantism was that the Things that chased me down on the edge of sleep were so much more real than anything I encountered at church! "It's just a nightmare" doesn't cut it. Not-believing in them doesn't protect you from them, you know?

One of the perks of becoming Orthodox has been that it happens much less often, now (I attribute this to the sacramental aspects), and the repetitive prayer discipline means that the basic routines of daily prayer are now so embedded in my consciousness that when I do encounter the odd malign entity in sleep or semi-sleep states, I remember to cross myself, and automatically launch into the Jesus prayer and then the Trisagion... and they go away and leave me alone!

It does, at the very least, call into question the oft-repeated Protestant complaint about Catholics and their "vain repetitions". Experience says those repetitions are like the hammer-blows of the smith in his forge: it's how you shape the necessary tools and weapons to protect yourself.

From the looks of it, the SOP and LBRP and similar practices seem to serve a similar purpose among JMG's commentariat.

FWIW, I think cancel culture and all the naive dabbling in the nastier side of the occult will, in the end, be a net gain for traditional sacramental Christianity: the nominal (cultural/ethnic) church members will drop out, faced with public censure. And the dabblers who get more than they bargained for will turn up to replace them: the church is, after all, a hospital. This is a time of winnowing. I hope our clergy are up to the task!

[kimberlysteele]

Not-believing in them doesn't protect you from them, you know? Well said... I found this out the hard way. For the record, Wicca made the experiences much, much worse. The type of Gardnerian Wicca I practiced in earnest offered exactly zero strengthening of the astral body.

Protestantism is doomed, I think. I don't expect it to be around as a religion in another thousand years. Of course I could be wrong. If Protestantism does manage a comeback, it will have to chuck Calvinism and most forms of evangelism, starting with the pathetic Prosperity Gospels of Joel Osteen and other uber-capitalist Christian Biblical literalists. Protestantism would of course benefit and potentially survive by embracing magic and mysticism and incorporating the study and potential acceptance of reincarnation. In other words, they could try acting slightly more like Jesus...

I hope Islam either radically changes or just goes away as a religion. I'd have as much confidence in the average imam as I would the average priest or pastor to get rid of a demon/djinn... that is zero. Those who live in an astral septic tank are usually not up to the task of banishing crap.

I believe JMG once said (or it could have been the Association of Druids in America) that the Sphere of Protection was partly based on the Stations of the Cross. I think he might have said that the LBRP was from the Golden Dawn people back in the day.

I'd like to see the dabblers learn from their mistakes and start worshipping the gods instead of invoking them in half-assed, bumbling "rituals" just to boss them around. We would all be better off if they understood the repercussions of throwing around their bad intentions. I'm planning an essay where I'll talk about what it's like to be severely depressed and why they keep digging themselves into a black hole. These people are being hagged for sure, and the ones who don't remember their dreams are likely the most severely victimized by spirit predators. If I suddenly stopped remembering my dreams, I'd be absolutely terrified, because it would mean they were too traumatic for me to pull into conscious memory.

[methylethyl]

Protestantism is a big thing with a lot of strands-- IMO you are right that the prosperity guys and Calvinism are toast. I'm not confident about Catholicism-- it'll probably still be around, but there's an ongoing collapse happening there, due to internal corruption, and it is far from done. Whatever's left in the rubble is going to be tiny by comparison. But I think some of the weirder strands of Protestantism have a chance-- particularly the more charismatic types. Probably the relevant question is: Does this church, or form of religion, meet the spiritual needs of its community, or is it just a social hub/cultural identity? The ones who've fully embraced enlightenment secularism (and that's a lot of them)... nah. What use are they in a world that desperately needs contact wtih the Divine?

Among the Orthodox, I strongly suspect that many of the wealthier ethno-centric parishes will not survive: once the Woke start attacking members/donors (and yeah, I see that coming: our main advantage to date is that Americans are mostly unfamiliar with Orthodoxy), the funds will dry up. The Greek archdiocese in particular will take a big hit. I think the Russians, Serbs, OCA, Antiochians, etc. will do better. But there are quite a lot of vibrant smaller parishes and I think we have a bright future. America needs us! The Coptic churches are not in communion with us, but clearly have a good thing going, and IMO will be fine. Those people come from places where anti-Christian violence (like shooting up churches, kidnapping, blowing up buses full of pilgrims...) is normal. Woke doesn't scare them. We could all learn from that group.

You are in my prayers-- don't worry, I don't ask for your conversion, only that you, your household, and your business be blessed and protected, and that you be granted the wisdom and courage to face the times we find ourselves in.

[kimberlysteele]

I'd like to see Catholicism survive, but yeah, they're collapsing and it is their own fault. My grandma, who was born in north Germany, became disgusted with Catholics and Catholicism. In her city, there was a place where all of the infanticided babies of priests and nuns were buried.

Modern Christian leaders remind me of doctors/medical "experts". They are know-nothings, full of false transcendence, the blind leading the blind. I have never met a Christian leader in a high position (pastor, priest, reverend) who didn't strike me as average to slimy on a psychic level. Perhaps I need to get out more -- I'd like to have a conversation with a religious leader with whom I could converse about talking to the recently dead, communing with trees and lakes, and dealing with haggings. I don't dare contact a Christian priest/pastor about those things though because they'll suggest to my husband that he should have me committed.

Christianity is a beautiful religion with fascinating roots. I'd like to see them defeat the Wokesters and go back to those roots. MACA... Make Christianity Great Again!

Thanks for your prayers. May you and your family be blessed.

[lp9]

I can think of exactly three non-slimy Christian leaders I've known in my life: a female Methodist pastor, a former Catholic priest who became an Episcopal priest, and a nun living in a convent in Rome that serves Spanish-speaking immigrants. But that's out of dozens and dozens I've encountered in my lifetime...

[(Anonymous)]

Hi MethylEthyl,

Orthodox Christianity is really interesting. Do you feel like other people at your church are as open to magic and the things JMG writes about, or do they dislike it? There is a subreddit about Orthodox Christianity and they don't seem to like the occult all that much.

[methylethyl]

That's a really, really complicated question. Yes. No. Maybe. Depends. I'll try:

There's a great deal of supernatural "punch" in the sacraments, liturgies, and disciplines of the church. From the inside, one wouldn't call it magic-- it's not the vocabulary we use. But following the religious disciplines strengthens the will, makes you more open to mystical experiences, protects you from malign entities, etc. Many of the same things that you'll find JMG talks about. And there are quite a lot of small things, such as blessed objects, exorcisms, healings, clairvoyance, etc. that are normal within Orthodoxy, that someone from JMG's background would instantly recognize as "magic" even though we don't call it that. Those are sort of fringe benefits though: the ultimate goal is union with God. Theosis.

In any given Orthodox parish, you'll likely find people who are entirely secular, people who have "read" themselves into the church: i.e. are Orthodox for intellectual reasons, people who've had mystical experiences and fully embrace all the weirdness that is Orthodoxy, and various shades between. There's a bit of a cultural taboo around making a big deal out of one's supernatural experiences: they're considered normal, but it's not advised to seek them out, because there are a lot of immaterial beings out there, and some of them will gladly lie to you. So: a degree of caution, humility, and skepticism are also expected. And, you know, we try not to freak out the intellectuals too much. They have their own hurdles to overcome.

As far as the occult... it's complicated. There are orthodox-adjacent ethnic occult traditions. The church officially condemns and discourages those, and for good reasons. At the same time, my parish's bookshop sells evil-eye charms (mention it, and our priest will sigh and roll his eyes). As Orthodox, we accept limitations on what practices we may engage in. I'm fine reading JMG's blog, but there's a lot he recommends that is off-limits to me, as a church member. And that's fine. I signed up for it willingly.

I don't speak for the church here, just personally: I do not expect people who have not made a commitment to my church to abide by those same limitations. We all live in a world crammed with sentient beings, many of them outside the material plane. It would be rather odd to expect people to *not* try to engage with, or protect themselves from, those things. It is actually much, much more difficult to relate to, or even help, people who are strict materialists.

That said, I don't think you'd find that to be a common viewpoint in the church. The most common view there, about the occult, is that it's dangerous. And they're not wrong. "The occult" is a huge variety of things, some of them possibly helpful, and quite a lot of them harmful and likely to bring you into contact with things that basically want to eat you for dinner. I do appreciate that JMG does his best to steer people away from the nastier side, but... what percentage of people who have had some contact with "the occult" have done that in a controlled environment, with safe, ethical practices, under a good teacher? I'd have to guess a fairly small minority! So, if you're the church, and you need to have an opinion on "the occult" generally-- the safe stance to take is,"don't." Same way you might tell your kids to stay away from base-jumping and motorcycling without a helmet, you know? Plus, all the things you might use the occult to do, in the way of developing your perception, protecting yourself, etc.... those things are already well provided for by the practices of the church. We don't need them.

Ultimately, though, there's an essential, irreconcilable difference in orientation between occultism and the practices of the church: namely, that occult practice seeks to operate one's will on the world: "my will be done."-- whereas the Christian seeks to operate God's will on himself: "Thy will be done." Those two things are incompatible at the most basic level. JMG sort of covers this in discussing occult practice vs. mysticism and the ascending and descending energies. Orthodoxy is primarily concerned with the mystical side of things.

Apologies for the epic reply. I hope that didn't confuse things further!

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP, but this is wonderful, thank you!

Big hugs.

[(Anonymous)]

I’ll add you to my daily SOP.

Annette

Re: Big hugs.

[kimberlysteele]

Thank you, Annette! I wouldn't trade my weird sensitive condition for the world -- it has been a good learning experience. It is just tough sometimes.

[lp9]

I have some abilities that I believe I can develop further in the way of clairvoyance; and I am really good at reading people and the subtle vibes during interactions. But I am not sensitive in the way you describe, not as attractive to non-material beings.

And yet! I too have been getting really bogged down by astral conditions these days. Some may be coming from the neighbor (she's intensely part of the PMC/social justice warrior crowd), but it's just grubby all around. It's also depressing to see people spiraling down, whether they are family members or just random acquaintances. I'm sure it will only get worse as material conditions continue to decline as well.

As far as I know, none of my SJW acquaintances from my neighborhood are part of the Magical Resistance and most of them are Jewish, including the neighbor mentioned above. I can't see them turning to Christianity or really even Islam, but a turn to Orthodox Judaism could be in the works. The next neighborhood over IS the Orthodox neighborhood, so it would be the easiest thing, geographically, to join that community.

I'll be sure to continue my prayers for you. May we all get through this mentally intact!

[kimberlysteele]

I don't "see" the beings I talk to except on rare occasion. I'm not ready to see or hear them physically, at least not on a regular basis. On rare occasions, I'll hear things that aren't there: choirs singing, orchestras, birds chirping like I'm surrounded in a grove though it's 11 at night in winter. A few months ago I saw a spirit of a dead guy who had suicided himself in the forest preserve I usually walk in. It was one of those rare moments where the gods figured I could handle it. It wasn't scary but I wouldn't want to be like the kid in The Sixth Sense, the "I See Dead People" movie. I don't think I'm all that special -- just as everyone except a few lucky freaks gets bitten by mosquitoes, I think everyone can perceive non-corporeal entities, it's just a matter of learning how to perceive them because they're nowhere near as obvious as mosquitoes.

I'm lucky not to live in a PMC neighborhood. My lower middle class area has its troubles but they are nothing compared to what the Woke PMC is swimming in. I can feel the miasma the second I cross the border into Naperville (PMC land) where I work. It's heavy. There's a cheerless, sociopathic vacuousness to it.

What's odd is how the Woke minions of New York targeted Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods with COVID lockdowns: https://www.timesofisrael.com/orthodox-group-slams-new-york-lockdown-says-it-targets-religious/

The Woke know they are under threat from all forms of religion, whether it is tiny little Druidry or the more formidable power of established Orthodoxy.

[methylethyl]

They targeted the Orthodox Jews because all the other religious institutions rolled over and played dead for them. Even our bishops put up no fight. I hope they wake up soon.

Netflix vs. Monotheism

[kimberlysteele]

Netflix has been actively trying to undermine religion. First there was the fracas over Cuties, which in my opinion was (subconsciously) designed to corrupt the Muslim faithful. More recently, they've released Unorthodox, which is the semi-true tale of a young pregnant woman who escaped her brutally strict Hasidic Jewish upbringing. The message seems clear: traditional religion is ALWAYS BAD because of oppressive, toxic masculinity. Hulu markets the same brand of nonsense with The Handmaid's Tale.

[lp9]

There is an ongoing political battle where I live between wokesters and the Orthodox Jewish community because the two neighborhoods share a city council district. The Orthodox side has been winning for the past few years because they know how to turn out the vote!

[(Anonymous)]

I was in the process of trying out Orthodox Christianity when this got started; the local church closed, and so I decided to take a different path. (I'm currently working through LRM and other Golden Dawn material); had the Orthodox Church here at least attempted to fight, I'd likely be well on my way to joining the church.

Sensitivities

[methylethyl]

The... sensitivities are a thing I'm bad at talking about, but I feel compelled. I've always, always been able to see/perceive a whole range of things that are not, apparently, on other people's radars. Until age 12 or so, I just assumed everybody could see them, and ignored them. Once I started asking about it, I quickly learned that it wasn't the case, and that I should keep my mouth shut about it. With the advent of the internet, I was able to put sciency-sounding names to some of them (synaesthesia, phosphenes, sleep paralysis, hypnagogia, visual snow...), but never all. And even the ones that are catalogued in the literature aren't really explained. Lots of theories, no proof. Still, I've spent most of my life filing that stuff away in the "neurological oddities" drawer and largely ignoring it.

Except the haggings. Those can't be ignored. And the thing is, the other stuff sneaks out around the edges, too. I can't really ignore it when I get bad vibes from people and places. That's clearly survival stuff. I got savvy enough not to mention it, but never dumb enough to dismiss it.

One of the really nice things about hanging around in JMG's comboxes has been... the freedom to open that drawer and look at the contents in a different light. Some may still get filed away as "crossed neuron" stuff, but the rummaging has been fruitful. Some of those things are definitely real. I still don't know exactly what they are, but hey, they exist outside my head, and are worth some examining. And some of them have become clearer now that I no longer pretend they aren't there. You seem much further down that road. Baby steps :)

Re: Sensitivities

[kimberlysteele]

I'm anything but a competent scholar, but I get the distinct impression that cultures before our industrial one were far better equipped to deal with psychic sensitivity. For one, psychism is intimately tied to the physical body, especially digestion. That never gets talked about. Sure, there's some general connection between psychological disorders and IBS, but other than that, we are nearly complete in our ignorance about such matters. One of the major reasons I was so tormented with hypnagogia and oversensitivity in my late teens was because my digestion was so completely wrecked. Chronically inadequate sleep, caffeine, psychiatric drugs, and a Standard American diet (inadequate fiber) made me extremely high strung, prone to emotional breakdowns, and manic with long periods of black hole depression.

In the old days, I suppose I would have been treated for an imbalance of the humors. What I got was continued insistence from my society that I needed to go to college and continue on the treadmill in order to be a "success". What I needed was a high-fiber diet (nowadays, I eat fruit out of a mixing bowl and salads the size of a soccer ball) and time to rest. I needed discursive meditation and prayer. Parents who don't put their kids into the public school system (including e-learning) give their children the most precious gift that exists in our era -- time to grow, think, and REST.

The haggings cannot be denied, that's for sure. As an atheist, I used to explain them away as "trans-dimensional bleed". I had already tried blaming them on my own imagination; nah. My imagination may be dark and nasty but I've never been predisposed to martyring myself. When I was in the teenage psych ward for two weeks, I met another kid who had been hagged named Marcus. He was the first person I ever met with whom I could discuss it. We both slept with knives under the bed. I had told my shrink about the haggings and the weird astral episodes and her response was to dose me with anti-schizophrenic meds along with my SSRIs. All of my brain scans and MRIs were normal. I'm so glad I weaned myself off those meds at age 22.

Re: Sensitivities

[methylethyl]

Yikes! I've never heard of sleep paralysis sending someone to the psych ward before. Though to be fair, my parents came from a very, very different place where shrinks and psych meds are concerned, and would not have gone that route. But... after being told "it's just a dream" a few times, I learned not to mention it. It wasn't any use. I mean, I knew, beyond all shadow of doubt, that it was NOT just a dream, that it was a THING, that it was real, malign, and that it was personal. As in, it wasn't some bad thing out there, it was a bad thing that meant harm to me, personally.

And the thing is, that's how nearly everyone who's experienced it describes it, the world over. Materialists like to say this is evidence that the thing is just a shared neural circuit being triggered. But IMO that's evidence that it's a real thing. Not bound by cultural expectations, not primed by experience, but shared by people all over the world with remarkable consistency. It's like chickenpox: kids all over the world get it. Some are naturally immune. The immune people don't say "Oh, that's psychosomatic anxiety triggering a blister reaction". They say "oh, all these people have caught the same pathogen". And they said that even before they could test for it. Why don't they assume haggings are the result of the same beast attacking, and that we simply don't have a way to test for it yet?

I agree that the sensitivity in general is tied to diet, but have had different experiences. My parents were vegetarians, so we were mostly vegetarian growing up, and I was seriously vegetarian for four years after I moved out of my parents' house. That made me *more* sensitive. I think JMG is onto something when he says eating meat is a good way to ground yourself. Certainly, it works for me. During my vegetarian years, I was getting frequent hallucinations of cats in my peripheral vision. Mostly, I could run through the checklist of "ok, we don't have any cats, so that was a strictly visual thing", but I remember one night at work, closing up the place, when I had to go and search the lobby just to be sure there wasn't a cat (because that would be a big health code violation!). Also during that time, I felt increasingly disconnected from the material world. It was not a good experience. I remember a roommate coming back from an outing where she'd tried a little LSD, and describing how everything had looked, and being like... geez, why bother? That's what everything looks like all the time anyway. For me, at least, eating a reasonable amount of meat puts a damper on that stuff, and that's a good thing. By veg year 4, I was starting to *feel* crazy.

Now, doing things like fasting before church services lets me open it up again more selectively in a safer context where the results are helpful and make a certain amount of sense. Guardrails and protections and all that.

Even so, there's still a lot of day-to-day visual background "noise". But that's always been there, and I've had a lot of practice ignoring it. Walls still shimmer, and nothing is ever quite as stationary as physics would like it to be, and I would still love to know what the dang cloud vortex is all about. But those things don't seem to be... meaningful?

Re: Sensitivities

[kimberlysteele]

The chicken pox analogy is excellent, I'm going to pocket that one for the future if you don't mind!

I don't mention it on JMG's boards, but I think one can have serious sensitivity problems if one isn't eating enough fat, whether that is animal or vegetable. I have noticed I feel spacey, hollow, and enervated when I don't eat enough and/or if I haven't had enough fatty food. It's my opinion that sensitivity is largely a fat issue -- fat isn't the boogeyman and neither is sugar. Now that I'm older and have some extra padding, I feel like I can go longer without eating. Meaning I have some extra fat in case that which I have eaten is insufficient. I have noticed concentration being difficult when my digestion is sluggish, and one thing I've noticed that gets way worse when I'm constipated is my frustration, stubbornness, and closed-mindedness.

Re: Sensitivities

[lp9]

Wow, I'm so glad you were able to figure out what you needed to avoid long-term institutionalization and all that medication.

Re: Sensitivities

[kimberlysteele]

Thanks. I was the one who thought I was going crazy and I was the one who originally sought psychiatric help & testing at the time. The meds stopped me from having suicidal urges but overall they made everything worse -- they kicked the can down the road as far as dealing with the problems. I fired my shrink in my early 20s.

Maybe psychiatry in its modern form has worked for someone but I see it as a sham. The only difference between modern modes of psychiatric treatment and Walter Freeman's ice pick lobotomies is the current method of lobotomizing the patient is chemical.

[lincoln_lynx]

Sounds like it was a very determined critter. The worst hagging experience I've heard of in fact. With one exception but that person didn't banish and invited the creature in.

[kimberlysteele]

Sadly I've had worse ones -- I went through a period from age 16 - 18 where they were absolutely terrible and too rated R to talk about on this blog. There's good reasons why I am a horror writer who is extremely hard to scare.

Interesting video on why Christians don't support BLM

[kimberlysteele]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmY6me04BGM