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In Japan and other Asian cultures, keeping the toilet clean is thought to bring good luck, specifically in the form of earned wealth and prosperity. There is even a toilet deity known as Ususama-myoo who presides over toilet safety. Ususama-myoo is far from alone in presiding over the privy: Ancient Romans had coins and a shrine to Venus Cloacina, who also blessed sexual unions.

For whatever reason, I always appointed myself as official toilet-cleaner of our house when I was a girl and though I wasn't forced, I cleaned all the bathrooms once a week or more despite not liking the job. Nowadays, I understand the value of that sort of etheric labor, and I have learned to tolerate the work a great deal more and detach myself from the gross-out factor. Having become an amateur gardener has helped because gardening steels you against freakouts over gross things -- plunging one's hand into mud and compost has that effect.

A surprising list of fabulously successful Japanese entrepreneurs and entertainers have kept their toilets clean despite being able to afford maidservice. Soichiro Honda, founder of Honda, believed in cleaning his own toilet until the bitter end. He started his company out of a wooden shack. When his shack days were long in the past, Honda commented that he could tell a good company by the state of their toilets, and that dirty toilets were a likely indicator of bad management. Director Takeshi Kitano is rumored to have sworn by cleaning his own toilet, and J-pop singer Kana Uemura had a hit song about appeasing the toilet goddess to honor her grandmother.


Ususama-myoo... yeah, he's not what I expected either!

The Clean Toilet Challenge

I am hosting an informal experiment: the Clean Toilet Challenge. I am looking for people to join me in keeping at least one toilet in their house sparkling clean from the Summer Solstice of June 2023 until the Winter Solstice of 2023. This means that said toilet will require daily cleanings, preferably with mild, all natural cleansers: I suggest 2 parts water to 1 part white vinegar in a spray bottle. in my case, I add a dash of Florida water and a few spritzes of my favorite Eau de Toilette (see what I did there?) but use what you see fit. Please make a note of the state of your bank account, debts, and general state of neediness on June 21st. There is no need to get specific or divulge the information -- all I am looking for is the general vibe of your personal finances. When December 21 arrives, make a comparative mental snapshot of your fiscal state. Is it any better? The same? Worse? I figure the only thing we've all got to lose is a sketchy and neglected toilet, so it's a win-win no matter what happens.

Lately I have been keeping my toilet very clean, both out of the desire to live the principles of the book I am writing, Sacred Homemaking, and out of sheer curiosity. Does keeping one's toilet clean actually result in business luck and earned wealth success? I haven't hit the big time since a couple of weeks ago, but I have seen a decent uptick in music lesson clients and donations for my creative works.

Terlets

Date: 2023-05-30 04:36 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, I’m in.

Annette

Date: 2023-05-30 04:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I’ll join the project, as it seems like a sure winner. Even if we don’t have fatter bank accounts, we’ll have sparkling toilets!

—Princess Cutekitten

Date: 2023-05-30 12:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
That picture: she looks like she'd make a stink when she's angry! I wouldn't want to offend her. The challenge reminds me of Flylady, one of the resources I ran into a lot back in the day, when I was trying to figure out how to keep house and not lose my mind. Her top recommendation was to polish your sink, every day. It's not that your sink needs polishing every day, it's that if you don't already have a housecleaning routine that works, and you're trying to establish one, you need a set, brief, ritual to start your day, every day-- something small and achievable that makes a visible difference-- a place to start. Since you see your sink a lot, this was a good target.

She never attached any deities to it, but I can see where that adds an element of external accountability that wouldn't otherwise be there. My kitchen is grubby lately-- maybe it is time to finally get an icon of St. Euphrosynos the cook to hang in there.

Date: 2023-05-30 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hmmm..this looks interesting. I am currently in charge of the homemaking for my family. I like the idea of cleaning while knowing others are doing the same task. It feels communal.

I like your recipe for the cleaning solution. But what is Florida water? I am in FL and haven't heard of it.

Heloise

Date: 2023-05-31 02:54 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Cool. Thank you!

Date: 2023-05-30 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scottyc
I saw your original challenge post over on Ecosophia. Didn't respond then as I wasn't up for a daily cleaning (clean enough I figured). Maybe because in the latest Doctrine and Ritual chapter I'm studying Levi stresses how the adept should keep clean.

One morning, Levi's words on cleanliness were on my mind, then your challenge and I decide to go clean our toilet. The thought came to me I should do the same to the guest toilet. We never use that toilet and hadn't been in there for a few month. I go and find the bowl is empty of water and this wasn't a surprise, but to my disgust, a couple of roaches had set up shop and had started a nest in there. If it wasn't for your challenge, we would be dealing with an infestation and I'd be wondering where the roaches were coming from. Probably would have been a few weeks before going into that bathroom.

Anyway, all that to thank you for your challange and to Ususama-myoo!

Date: 2023-05-31 09:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scottyc
And thank you.

Your idea created tangible benefits on my end, not just a clean toilet. In fact, I'd say this is a text book case of good magic. In the Preparations chapter of Levi's Ritual of High Magic he says that "Magic is exercised at all hours and at all moments".

You had the idea and you acted / willed this idea onto the astral light via posting it online in which many readers could choose to act upon it or not. For those that act upon it, at the very least we get cleaner toilets. I immediately realized additional benefits and I'm sure the benefits will only increase, even if only subtlety.

Date: 2023-05-30 06:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scottyc
Not much online but did find this interesting blog post:

https://toilet-guru.com/japan-gods-demons.html

Date: 2023-05-30 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi, Andrea here. I saw your announcement over at Ecosophia and immediately started cleaning and polishing the only toilet in my flat on a daily basis. It feels really good. Love your book project about sacred homemaking. Some time ago I started along the same lines and the impact it is having on my wellbeing is tremendous.

I'm definitely in on the challenge!

Blessings to you all!

Date: 2023-05-31 12:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] michele7
I'm with you on this one. Fly Lady online does what she terms Swish and Swipe. (You can find her process online.) Very simply she says put some kind of soap or shampoo in your toilet brush holder. Every day take the toilet brush, let most of the soap drip off and swish the brush around the toilet. Flush. Then spritz your sink with your cleaner of choice and give a quick swipe. Do the same to the mirror. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes.

Date: 2023-05-31 11:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] michele7
Here's another website with interesting toilet god info. https://uncannyjapan.com/podcast/toilet-gods/

Date: 2023-05-31 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scottyc
Thank you for this.

Date: 2023-05-31 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Nobody taught me how to clean, so I've had to figure it out from scratch (and books). One thing I've never understood is how to keep the toilet brush holder clean in the long term. What are people doing?

Date: 2023-06-01 01:54 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
KVD here. So down.

https://naakua.substack.com/p/dont-listen-to-the-plastic-trees

Date: 2023-06-01 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
FYI, Kimberly, I did resign from AODA yesterday. I stuck to my issue as a devotional polytheist with the Luciferian member, rather than giving any broader critique. It had been a stressful day and I just wanted to send the email and have it over with. You may be amused by this, though: I did a reading beforehand to see if I should do it then, and I drew Beith-Saille-Ioho well-dignified. That sound you heard yesterday evening? That was the Ogham spirits collectively rolling their eyes at me...

--Sister Crow

Date: 2023-06-02 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What direction is the AODA moving in? I was just looking at their website yesterday, and looking at the third degree showcase projects.

Date: 2023-06-02 07:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] causticus
Sorry to hear it's come to that.

I joined AODA several years back, but after doing a deep dive into the organization's literature, and I decided not to get involved.

The overall tone left a sour taste in my mouth. I saw a whole bunch of red flags and got the overall impression that AODA had become yet another Neopagan group; any "Mesopagan" retro Druidry from the earlier phases seemed at this point to be heavily diluted with the usual doses of new agey wiftyness and other forms of pop culture pandering. I realize that the leadership is forced to appeal to the lowest-common-denominator in order grow the membership base, but maybe the desire for "growth" is the main problem (a seasoned druid should have no problem seeing the error in this type of thinking). The broader the appeal, the more the core materials get watered down, and the more they have to accommodate every new flavor of snowflakeism that hits the market each month.

About a year later I start hearing stories from members about the org being infected by wokeness and other stupidity. It just seems inevitable that nearly every alt-spirituality group, including AODA, would eventually succumb to the same corrosive fads. It's the same PMC and PMC-adjacent demographic that tends to populate these groups. On top of that, there is no deep tradition underpinning these groups. When there's no real tradition, there's only the ever-shifting fad-sands of pop culture to fill in the gaps.

So yeah, hard pass.

I do think the current incarnation of Revival Druidry (as far as being a viable group activity) is probably dead-man-walking at this point. I would hope that another form of Druidry can rise from the ashes here in North America; one that isn't dependent on imported "Celtic" themes, and is free of all the obnoxious boomerisms that has doomed the currently-dying version.

Date: 2023-06-03 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sadly I must agree with you on all counts, Causticus. I was hoping AODA would stick to its roots (as it were), stay independent-minded, and not get involved in contemporary trends, but after 30+ years observation from the edges of the Pagan community I ought to have known better. I really ought to have known better when Gordon made a statement about BLM while he was Archdruid--that was the beginning of a slide that has only accelerated.

--Sister Crow

Date: 2023-06-04 09:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] causticus
I've noticed that working class pagans tend to gravitate toward either Mall Wicca or Norse/Germanic paganism. In the past though, I think you are right that the poorer ones would tend to copy whatever wealthier pagans were doing.

On that second part, what you did with the Ogham is exactly what I had in mind as far as properly adapting Druidry to a local ecological context.

On language: with the exception of the Ogham names (which are Irish Gaelic), all the Celtic terminology in DMH is Welsh. And yeah the way Welsh is written looks totally alien when compared to how English is spelled out using the same script. Most of the Welsh words used in Revival Druidry have easy one-word equivalents in English, with maybe the exception of nwyfre (life force), a concept which no modern Western language has a word for. I think JMG kept strange-sounding terms in his Druidry books because that's the tradition he inherited from his teachers and possibly he didn't feel justified in changing up the language wholesale. But yeah I agree it creates an unnecessary barrier. In Welsh most of those words have rather mundane meanings.

I'll probably do a blog soonish on the many issues I've found with the supposed Celticness of modern Druid traditions. Not that I'm advocating reconstructionism as an alternative, as I think both eclectic romanticism and pedantic reconstructionism are failed pagan approaches. Your church idea sounds like a lot more interesting a way to pass on the Druidic torch. My own take is that every local area should have its own Druid tradition, even if it's just 1 or 2 people practicing it.

Date: 2023-06-02 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I misread this and cleaned my toilet yesterday and today, instead of waiting for June 21st. At least I have a nice clean toilet now!

Cleanup and Willpower

Date: 2023-06-03 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jeffinwa
Brilliant inspiration Kimberly, count me in.
Ordered the FL h2o, already been using vinegar for cleaning (will start diluting!). Glad to hear you are still working on the Sacred Homemaking book. As a recently widowed oldster seriously lacking homemaking skills I've been waiting for my copy ;-). This experiment sounds like a good practical way to implement JMG's will training (I did not do to well with that LOL) that hopefully will grow in scope.
Light and love to you and yours

Date: 2023-06-20 07:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jpc_w
I'll join in, too.

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