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It's time to check in on the Clean Toilet Challenge! Since slightly before the 2023 Spring Solstice, I have been cleaning my toilet every day. In my house, we are blessed with two toilets -- my husband built our second half-bathroom in 2021 -- and though I don't clean that toilet as frequently, it has been well-maintained with a less-rigorous cleaning schedule. I have also deep-cleaned two of my parents' toilets and continued to keep them clean whenever I am there, which is about 2-3x per week.

As for money and health luck, I believe I have personally experienced a great deal of both with some of the money luck spilling over to my husband despite the fact I am the only one cleaning the toilets. I have seen a big increase in demand in my music teaching business; so much that I cannot accept all the prospective students that reach out to me. Overall, my statistics are better, with my self-scheduled private lessons up 7 percent from last year. I have also added work at a music school, which has boosted my income considerably. I am simply more comfortable than I was at the beginning of the year before I started the Clean Toilet Challenge. I'm still of an income level where even if I wanted to travel by plane or take hotel vacations (I don't) I could not afford to do it, however, I am able to afford to eat take-out or restaurant food up to 3x a week. This was simply not true of last year. But that's not all. My husband recently got a raise and a better employment situation. He is making 10$ more an hour, which is extremely significant in our world. I believe that keeping the toilets clean has brought good fortune.

For cleaning the toilet, I suggest putting a mixture of white vinegar and water (3 parts water, 1 part vinegar, or half and half) and cleaning the toilet top to bottom with a paper towel. Finish by scrubbing the inside of the bowl with a toilet brush. To initially deep clean a toilet, you may need a wire brush to excavate old rust scale and other nastiness. If the toilet seat is wrecked or cracked, you can buy a replacement. Once the toilet is deep cleaned, daily cleaning will most likely keep in in check. I always finish by thanking the toilet: "Toilet toilet handling waste, thank you for your saving grace."

Has keeping your toilet clean changed anything? I would love to hear your story in comments.

Date: 2023-10-09 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi Kimberly, and blessings to you (if you would accept them, of course!).

I'm doing this "challenge", mostly because it just seemed "right" at the time you proposed it, and because I like the idea of the will training it offers. I've been cleaning my toilet every day, similarly to you (one deep clean that was rather ick, including removing the seat entirely and getting around and under the seat bolts, but now it's just a 1:3ish vinegar:water solution spritz and a wipe-down), since well before the challenge officially started (I think back when the idea of the Japanese God of the Toilet was first brought up). I haven't done it with the intention of getting more wealthy, but mostly just showing up and doing the work with a good attitude. Prior to the challenge I had cleaned my toilet thoroughly once a week, with the occasional extra swish if it needed it during the week.

So far I haven't seen any major change in either my finances nor my fortunes, but I have been grateful that they've remained steady. I seem to get a little more in my paycheque, but I'm not sure if that's just because they've rejiggered the tax math for next year or what. The jury's still out on whether or not a new romantic relationship is going to be on the net positive side or not, but it seems to be a pleasant addition to my life during the challenge, at least so far, though not an unalloyed positive. And I've made a personal intention to learn a new instrument starting this autumn, which I consider a positive but definitely wasn't to my wallet. :) Overall, though, I would say that between the instrument decision and a few other pleasant opportunities, this autumn is looking brighter than last year's by comparison, if only in small (but meaningful) ways.

On the negative side, though, I did miss out on a few great opportunities in August/September that I found out about only after the fact. And they sort of balance things out a bit, as they were really good ones. No complaints whatsoever, I mention these simply to avoid confirmation bias.

I do wonder if explicit intention matters. Looking forward to reading other updates for comparison!

Cheers, V.O.G

Date: 2023-10-10 01:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
That's great news!

I feel like intent probably matters here, but for science: I tried cleaning the toilet each day at the beginning of the challenge, and then I broke my foot and couldn't manage it for six weeks. oof. Our finances are the same as always: we have enough.

Date: 2023-10-10 09:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Well, on the plus side, the foot is healed up nice and tidy, and I am back to my regular cleaning activities. Hooray.

I think so

Date: 2023-10-10 02:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have 2 toilets. I am cleaning the bowl of the upstairs one daily, just the inside of the bowl daily, with intention. I dont usually use any products. I use a brush. I am actually amazed with my well water how clean it is. The daily scrub has worn away any issues and keeps them at bay. I also clean the outside but not daily, and I have cleaned a time or two with a product. The Azure Clean Toilet Clean product, which is scented with natural, essential oils of pine. I believe that in general we use way to many household and personal care products, so in general, I only use products when absolutely needed. The second bathroom was inaccessable when I started the challenge, once I could get in there, the toilet was in very bad shape. blue calcified streaks coming down the inside from the inner rim area, spreading brown on the bottom of bowl in exit area, made me almost want to cry. Cleaning that up made me a believer in the Azure product, which I had bought but not used yet before that time. And alot of scrubbing with the brush. After a couple days this one sparked too, it is not used much, so I dont clean daily, but am keeping it up.

Things are going better. I now have replacement batteries for my solar system (broke in the czu fire 3 years ago); The charlatan wood milling guy in a moment of weakness agreed his product might be bad and had a worker come pick it up, which means he eventually refunded me in the nick of time so I didnt need to small claims court; I found a person to rebuild my barn ( euphamism for an outbuilding of a few hundred sq ft), I was beginning to think the project was cursed so many have pulled out or tried to ask for too much to do it. I have a volunteer cutting and splitting my storm felled ancient oak tree, and he decided he needs to actually leave me a few cords too. Other things arent new, but are continuing/ doing better, the free twice a month accupunture has put me in a rotation with a teacher ( I am a class guinea pig/teaching object at the chinese med college) who seems to be "getting" what places in me need unblocking or whatever; I have dared to ask for help and received it to do a few important things too heavy for me rather than having to hire help, which is hard to get even if I could afford it. I would say altogether, not counting accupuncture, about $16k of doing better ? Which realy just means a better quality of life as I would not have spent that as I am low income, I would have had to do without refrigeration in the increasing power outages, had a large tree just laying there, not felt as well, still had furniture in the bathroom ( or paid a few hundred) etc...

Re: I think so

Date: 2023-10-10 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you

Your summary sounds about right. When I say I am cleaning it with intention. I dont ask for anything at all, so of course that is not what I mean. I just have the intention that I am keeping this area scrubbed and clean ? Hard to explain.

Date: 2023-10-10 10:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
OT: ran across this in Sayings of the Desert Fathers, and thought you'd like it:

"...this resembles that which the blessed Evagrius spake, saying, 'As it is not the material foods themselves which nourish the body, but the power which is in them, so it is not matters themselves which make the soul to grow, but the power of discernment which comes from them.' And he also said, 'As the feeding, and health, and growth of the body do not come through the actual materials of our foods, for these are cast out of the body in the draught, but from the hidden power which is in them, so also the nourishment and the growth of the soul take place through the fear of God...' "

Evagrius doesn't say "etheric nutrition", but distinguishing between the material of foods and the "hidden power which is in them" sounds a lot like it, doesn't it? I love how, typically, this comes up as an aside remark. The passage is about something else entirely and no further explanation is given of Evagrius' views on the power in food-- it reads like one of those things that everybody knows already so it's not worth mentioning, any more than you talk about water being wet or rocks being unyielding. So thoroughly assumed, that it's being used as a metaphor for something else.

But here we are trying to recover that common knowledge in the 21st century ;)

Date: 2023-10-11 05:18 pm (UTC)
methylethyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Like with any such things... the original is almost certainly in Greek, so anything you get in English is the translator's best attempt ;)

It's part of a longer passage that I struggle to understand, about the vague-sounding "matters"-- I really want to track it down in the original Greek (I suspect "θέματα": matters, issues-- but this isn't helping me) to see what that "matters" might possibly refer to, as I'm not at all sure from the context. But the comparisons to the hidden powers in food jumped out at me and I excerpted those :) If you want the longer context I'll happily type it out-- it just isn't about food.

You're right that the "fear of God" is a much more nuanced idea than it sounds like in modern English. Here is what St. Maximos the Confessor had to say about it:

"Fear of God is of two kinds. The first is generated in us by the threat of punishment. It is through such fear that we develop in due order self-control, patience, hope in God and dispassion; and it is from dispassion that love comes. The second kind of fear is linked with love and constantly produces reverence in the soul, so that it does not grow indifferent to God because of the intimate communion of its love. “The first kind of fear is expelled by perfect love when the soul has acquired this and is no longer afraid of punishment (cf. I John 4:18). The second kind, as we have already said, is always found united with perfect love. The first kind of fear is referred to in the following two verse: ‘Out of fear of the Lord men shun evil’ (Prov. 16:6), and ‘Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom’ (Ps. 111:10). The second kind is mentioned in the following verses: ‘Fear of the Lord is pure, and endures forever’ (Ps. 19:9), and ‘Those who fear the Lord will not want for anything’ (Ps. 34:10)."

So yes, literal fear as we understand it in modern English, but also... this other. And it's a progression from one to the other.

Date: 2023-10-11 04:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

I was just thinking about this challenge! I stuck with it every day for a week and then moved to twice a week instead.

Well, after applying for many grants, bursaries, and scholarships, my degree is now fully funded! This is really great!

Quick update on my progress

Date: 2023-10-12 10:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miow
I'm going to come back and read everyone's response in more detail, as I'm off to work in a minute. My update relates to your comment and the absolute truth of 'health is wealth'. I am steadily chipping away at a mountain of debt (result of lockdown...) but the main thing for me is my health. I've weaned myself off all medication including decades' reliance on antidepressants, using methods I learnt from JMG's teachings. Since then, I've maintained an even keel health wise, and I think the discipline of cleaning my toilet regularly helps - certainly with strengthening the will. Two further things:

1. I've had to travel a lot for work over the summer and had to stay in hotels. I made a point of cleaning the toilet in each hotel I stayed at to a sparkle every day. I hope that this and also keeping my room tidy sent a little bit of positivity to the cleaning staff, whom I always note my fellow PMC members hardly notice exist.

2. I sing your little rhyme, Toilet Toilet Handling Waste, Thank You for your Saving Grace, to my toilet while I clean it, to the tune of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, just much more slowly. It just feels right doing that. Plus I can't carry a tune normally but this one I can. My boy cat very often comes and keeps me company in the bathroom. I always feel honoured when any cat graces me with their presence, so there's that as well.

Thank you for this challenge/working Kimberly. I enjoy being part of it.

Re: Quick update on my progress

Date: 2023-10-12 07:25 pm (UTC)
miow: Bubbles (Default)
From: [personal profile] miow
I'm honoured to be your kindred spirit dear Kimberly. Praise be to Lady Bastet ;)

Toilet Challenge

Date: 2023-10-12 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sorry to come late to this party! LOL! I will have to try this.

BTW, what part of your house do you clean if you want more friends and community?

Re: Toilet Challenge

Date: 2023-10-12 04:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I'll just add-- even though I've slacked a lot on bathroom cleaning recently, I've really tightened things up on my kitchen-cleaning routine, to help solve some persistent, annoying problems. And the result is that I've been motivated and organized enough to try cooking new dishes for the family, and to cook extra for potluck-type things at church!

Turns out if you're unhappy being in your kitchen, it's really demotivating when it comes to cooking. Sometimes the solution isn't just "willpowering" your way through the cooking problem directly, but instead making the kitchen a more pleasant place to be, first!
Edited Date: 2023-10-12 05:01 pm (UTC)

Re: Toilet Challenge

Date: 2023-10-13 12:36 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So funny that you said the kitchen! That was what I was thinking! Thanks for your response.

Date: 2023-10-12 11:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bofur_the_dwarf
I uhhh can't say I've gotten any more ambitious about cleaning toilets, but I'm thrilled that you're doing better.

Date: 2023-10-13 05:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I forgot about it, I’ll apologize to the toilet and start again. 😳. I have been cleaning it, of course, but not every day top to bottom, just regular bowl and seat cleaning whenever it needs it and cleaning the outside during the weekly heavy-cleaning-artillery assault on the bathroom. Should I apologize to the toilet in Japanese? I remember how to do that, and also remember that the original magic was developed in Japan.

Let’s all sing! 🎼From Natchez to Mobile...🎼

—Princess Cutekitten

Toilet cleaning

Date: 2023-10-13 01:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] michele7
While I haven't noticed any increase in monetary wealth, I have felt a sense of serenity. I think we often sabotage ourselves when it comes to cleaning because we think it will take forever. A quick swish and wipe of the toilet probably takes a hot minute or two. I once timed how long it took me to strip our bed and put on fresh sheets. It was five minutes. For me, realizing how little time it takes to do these mundane household chores makes it easier to get them over and done with.
I second Methylethyl's comment about a clean and organized kitchen leading to more delicious meals (okay, I paraphrased her.)

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