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Kimberly Steele ([personal profile] kimberlysteele) wrote2021-07-21 11:16 am
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Re: Covid

[personal profile] mollari 2021-07-22 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
"That's why you'll always find an excess of maskturbators and Frankenjab-pushers in the cities and woke countries like France, Britain, and Australia."

Don't forget Canada! ;)

I think we're going to see a very interesting flu season this year. There's some evidence that a lot of the "variants" are much more dangerous to the vaxxed, and if this holds, when the flu season gets under way an awful lot of people are going to get very sick, and many of them are going to die. I expect the pressure to get the treatment is going to get a lot more intense once this starts up, but if ADE is as bad as prior Coronavirus vaccines have been, we're looking at more than enough serious illness and deaths this winter to actually overwhelm the medical system. I hope this means that it'll be too busy trying to treat people to do much in terms of forced Covid shots, but I could easily see a case where it's deemed more important to get those shots in as many people as possible than treat the dying.

I really hope it doesn't rise to the level of some of the worst of the prior trials, because if it does we're looking at this winter making the Great Plague of London in 1665 and 1666 look mild. If that happens, well, at least it'll all be over fairly quickly.

Re: Covid

[personal profile] mollari 2021-07-22 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Here in Ontario we've never left lockdown since March of 2020. It's been eased at various points, but we've had to keep following a lot of the same rules for the entire time. I've given up trying to organize anything: to many people are eager to play along with the rules, and also to harass those of us who don't care to. My plan is to keep my head down until I can leave.

I know it sounds really harsh, but right now I'm hoping that the vax is as dangerous as the worst case scenarios suggest. It's definitely dangerous, so my initial hope of it being safe is already been proven impossible, and so now it's just a question of how bad. If it ends up maiming and killing a lot of people in the short run, at least it'll be over fairly quickly.

The nightmare scenario to my mind is one where it's not so dangerous that the vaxxed have to deal with it. This would mean that those of us who pay attention to the evidence for harm have every reason to avoid it, but the people making decisions will be able to double down on it, and a lot of people who got it will feel the need to attack the people who didn't, for showing them their own mistake, and everything will get a lot more nasty and a lot more tense. Right now, I think this is where we're heading, but I really hope I'm wrong.

Re: Covid

(Anonymous) 2021-07-22 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope and pray that this can all fade away quietly, without anyone getting hurt; yet I can’t shake the feeling that the other shoe has yet to drop.

Re: Covid

[personal profile] mollari 2021-07-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's too late for that: people are getting hurt already. The only question now is how many, and how badly? I prefer the outcome which leads to the least long term pain, which I think means a complete disaster has to happen this winter.

Re: Covid

[personal profile] lincoln_lynx 2021-07-22 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
My guess is we, for the most part, won't see heinous effects in the near-term, but skyrocketing cancer rates in the long run. (Other problems where our benevolent overlords can feign ignorance also seems likely.)

That said, I doubt the vax madness will last longer than another two years, and in my opinion Biden's administration knows they've lost already.

Re: Covid

[personal profile] lincoln_lynx 2021-07-23 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
The Dems are doing their best to insure they lose spectacularly. That's for certain. But going in history's dustbin? I can't see that because of how locked in the two-party Uniparty is. Ahem, unless, there's a, shall we say, severe disruption, which despite our overlords' odiousness, feels far-fetched. The American Right are too mellow for their own good.

Whiglicrat Party

(Anonymous) 2021-07-25 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
While it does appear that the Democrat party has finally just let the mask completely drop and reveal their true feelings for America and its people, it's not like the Republican party is much of an alternative.

We got to see just how slyly they would crow about putting America first all through the 90s and 00s while selling America out to foreign interests. What I noticed in particular is that after the great recession, the Republican party went from being a party with a clear agenda with clear goals to being a total husk with no organization, no philosophy, and no backbone to do much of anything besides obstruct.

Even now it feels like the majority of Republicans are of that same see-nothing, think-nothing, and do-nothing mold. Worse, many are just wolves in sheep's clothing or empty suits who just hopped on board the Trump train out of expedience. All Cruz can do is talk about freedom and about Antifa while doing nothing of substance about any of it. All Crenshaw can do is look like a badass in an eyepatch while favoring anti 2A measures. Even Trump's boy Sununu in NH won't take a strong stance against CRT.

The Republicans have a golden opportunity but they themselves have been a shattered wreck for nearly 14 years with only one real hope of a vision that nearly half of them are trying to reject

Re: Covid

(Anonymous) 2021-07-24 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I (Canadian) am much more afraid of my government than the coronavirus, even though I have some risk factors for the disease that give me about a 1/1000 chance of death and a maybe 1/200 chance of long term impairment. I'm considering getting the vax because if it turns out the vaccine doesn't work, the government and their pet media are going to blame the unvaccinated and that could lead to all sorts of SCIENCE sanctioned violence.

Re: Covid

[personal profile] mollari 2021-07-25 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
As a fellow Canadian, I'm going to ask you to stand strong and refuse the vax. The more of us there are, the less likely it is for the government to push for violence against us; and the more likely it is that we'll be able to survive this.