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Kimberly Steele ([personal profile] kimberlysteele) wrote2021-02-24 11:09 am
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[personal profile] lp9 2021-02-28 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
An additional report, from a Navy ship in the Middle East (transporting Marines)where my sister-in-law is an officer. They have just started vaccinating and something like 1/3 to 1/2 of people are not getting the vaccine. The ship is constantly announcing that vaccines are available and trying to get people to come get it.

Until the President authorizes it, the military cannot force soldiers/sailors to get the vaccine.

I am still trying to figure out the nuances between those who want the vaccine and those who don't. Class certainly plays a role, but there is more than class to it. I'm not sure if it's politics? Age/generation cohorts? There's a matrix and I haven't sorted out which combination of factors predicts inclination to be vaccinated. I know plenty of non-PMC people who really want the vaccine. But they are all Baby Boomers. I can't think of any non-PMC people in my acquaintance who are Gen X and want the vaccine. (The millennials I know are all PMC.) People who *aspire* to the PMC, but aren't, also seem to be pro-vaccine. Liberals seem to be more likely to want it, but some conservatives do too...

(Anonymous) 2021-02-28 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've had more than one person say they really wanted the vaccine to people, but in private once I said I wasn't getting it told me that they were really reluctant to get it too, but felt the need to fake it. I think that's a factor too: some people are pretending to want it, but really deep down don't. Since this raises a ton of issues around who fakes it and who doesn't, and the differences between them, I think that that's part of why I think it's so hard to tell.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-01 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is exactly why I've been saying I don't want the vaccine to anyone I think likely to not lose their mind about it. The results are very instructive....
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[personal profile] lp9 2021-03-01 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm very careful about who I share my opinions with. My immediate and extended family all know my feelings about the vaccine. I've told one work friend who is sympathetic and only because she asked me as she was getting pressure from our boss (she is our boss's assistant). Otherwise, I think people just assume I'm pro-vaccine and I typically refrain from discussing it either way. I want to be able to slip under the radar (and slip my kids under the radar) if there is more rigorous enforcement ahead.

Masks are a bit trickier. My "rebellion" is to not wear one when I am outside - even when I encounter other people (I just stand back a bit). Sadly, this actually is a rebellion around here. I see neighbors wearing a mask while they exercise or walk the dog - ALONE - all the time.

For good and bad, I have a pretty chameleon-like existence and acquaintances on nearly every point of the economic and status spectrum.
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[personal profile] methylethyl 2021-03-03 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I have a cousin who's been gleefully exploiting gun laws to avoid masks. State doesn't require them here, but individual businesses still can-- and some chain stores have been quite obnoxious about it. But the law says if you're carrying a firearm, you can't cover your face (think bank robbers). He has a CCL, so now when pushy door greeters ask if he has a mask he replies "No, but I have a gun". They can't legally make him comply...
Edited (spelling) 2021-03-03 04:33 (UTC)